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Diagnosing a Lean Condition on Chevrolet 5.3l – High tech meets old school

September 19, 2016 By Tyler Hopper

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I have been experiencing a P0174 (System too lean condition bank 2) and P0171 (System too lean condition bank 1) on my 5.3l Vortec powered Silverado.  The only symptom that I noticed was a slight stumble at idle.  After reading forums I suspected that either the fuel filter, fuel pump, MAF sensor, or my intake gaskets were bad.  I sprayed sensor safe carburetor cleaner around the base of the intake and didn’t notice an increase in idle, so I proceeded to clean the MAF and changed the fuel filter.  I reset the check engine light and drove the truck for a few more days until the CEL came on again.  Since I didn’t have any reason to suspect an intake leak, because it passed the carb cleaner test, I ordered an OEM fuel pump and installed it.  Once again I reset the CEL, and in a few days the light came back on. Now I was suspect of the intake gaskets and decided to go high-tech on the issue.  I purchased two wireless OBDII readers.  The first one I purchased was a cheap unit that didn’t work.  Then I ordered an iCarsoft OBDII Wifi unit to use with my android smart phone.

20160125_175547After setting up the iCarsoft unit to work with the OBD Car Doctor Free app it was time for a test drive.  Below you will see two screenshots of my short term and long term fuel trim showing the values under acceleration and at idle.

Screenshot_2016-01-27-17-37-56Screenshot_2016-01-27-17-34-43Under steady acceleration, my short term fuel trim was between -7 and +3, when I let the engine idle the short term fuel trim went to over 25% indicating a lean condition during idle only.  The same was true for long term fuel trim, under acceleration I was reading 15%, and at idle it went to 25%.  This helped rule out an issue with fuel delivery, and pointed toward the direction of the dreaded 5.3 intake gaskets.

 

20160127_174039Now for the true test.  I let the truck idle in park, and got out the trusty carb cleaner again.
I sprayed all around the base of the intake, paying more attention to the back of the engine.  As I held the trigger on the spray can I noticed the fuel trim % slowly declining, but the engine idle sound never changed.
Screenshot_2016-01-27-17-40-00
The ECU was adjusting the fuel trim at a faster rate then my ears could pick up, making it impossible to determine that the intake gaskets were bad using the carb cleaner method without some a diagnostic scanner.  This is one instance where high-tech and old school can work together to more efficiently solve a problem.

 

If you’re curious about the scanner used in this article, you can purchase this unit at CoolAutoGadgets.com

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